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This is pretty funny. I stopped reading after "great random teams in NCSL or ODSL". There are zero great teams in ODSL. [/quote]

I don't know about great, but don't overlook the ODSL teams that can't meet NCSL requirements (and thus can't join NCSL) yet have talented rosters. In most cases it's a team that a parent coaches because his son or daughter just happens to be that age, and the players are skilled because they've grown up with the game in family settings. Great? Probably not, but they'll can certainly blow teams out.[/quote]

Agree to an extent. Let's say it more clearly: ODSL has some ass-kicking teams of poor Hispanic kids being coached by their crazy dads. Greatness isn't out of reach.[/quote]

What makes you think we're poor you ass-wipe!

I moved to an independent club with my son because I was sick of the 1hr long training sessions from E-licensed coaches following a curriculum some TD thought up a few years and as they were phoning it in to their 2nd training session since they had taken up 3 teams to make some money on the side they weren't providing any instruction at all or correcting the boys when they say the drills being executed incorrectly.  The current team were on has 3 practices a week by a coach, whose son is on the team(why else would he do it), we have 2 hour practice sessions that start after he gets home from work which is usually by 6pm.  If you get there late, no worries as he sometimes has work issues and other parents start the kids on the warm-ups.  The trainer changes the drills and what we work depending on how the team is doing in the games, we don't have a season and practice during December/January/February and the team as a whole registers in the indoor leagues as well.  Even though I am paying less at this point than pretty much all of the clubs around the area would charge for 10-months of soccer, DS team as a whole is getting way more in training time vs games.  We are NOT required to show up in our training kits at 4:45pm for practice or have a fancy logo on our shirts or have some kind of misplaced ego because were on the "RED" or "BLUE" team or play in CCL1 or whatever stupid shiny piece the soccer clubs have come up with to separate money from their parents.  I guarantee you, soccer basis, my son's experience is better than your son's experience.[/quote]

I love you.  I did the similar thing with my kids.  We left one of the big clubs because it was a factory.  Coaches had too many teams and the training wasn't as good.  They barely could remember their names.

In the young years, it's all about individual development.  I don't care about Clubs.   I feel bad for people that didn't come from a soccer background because they get fooled by all the pomp and circumstance and talk of State Cup and Acadamies, etc.[/quote]

What's your experience been like?  Have you talked to other parents that stayed at the club you were with?  Does their view of their experience at the same time you were there different from yours?  Do share.[/quote]

Yes. The normal parents with good players are all absolutely miserable, but hesitant to make the move for various reasons, e.g., carpools, perceived status, fear, false hope.  Then, the others are your typical kiss-asses living vicariously through their "mediocre at best" A team/junior Club DA kid.

I was hesitant with my older one, but it was fucking misery the first two years and now at U13 (3 years training away from big club)  his development is light years above the former teammates. A lot of those kids got cut, moved down, or remained status quo.

Most former smart players hate the travel system and are aware  it's ruining US youth soccer.

28 years and we probably won't even qualify for the World Cup. Pathetic.[/quote]

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