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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think there is a third path that few US colleges offer.

The OP is correct that students that attend Harvard or Princeton ARE wasting their time taking more than the 12 classes needed to get their degree.

Students that get into HYPS have already got broad educational bases (that is why the got into HYPS) and could specialize immediately, but this path is not available.

The OP is familiar with similar students/universities in Pakistan.

What I think the OP is missing is that for MOST US college students, part of their education is REMEDIAL.

Students that go to say Carnegie Mellon for engineering, need to NOT ONLY do the 12 required engineering courses but to also do the 8 distribution courses to bring them up to the level of an incoming HYPS student.  Students that go to say Haverford, need to fill in the science and math to bring them up to the entry HYPS level that meets the proficiency required to call yourself educated.

You can argue that Carnegie and Haverford students have already met this standard but if you fill in New Jersey Institute of Technology and Slippery Rock University, you can see what I mean.

This leveling process is completely missed in most schools around the world that are trying to skip steps to get more bang for their money.

How big of a part does this remedial aspect play in the envy of US colleges around the world?

"And yes Harvard Princeton are the envy of the world. slippery rock university less so."[/quote]

That's where the problem with the entrance exams (sat) comes in. students should be admitted based on their knowledge not sAT. I looked recently at entrance exams to Harvard from a hundred years ago. they were meaningful and difficult. SATs need to be replaced with something like
That. when that happens no one who needs remedial course will be admitted. [/quote]

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