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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] This really depends on how the legal situation evolves. SCOTUS could find that there is no Constitutional protection for abortions without going so far as to determine there is a thing such as "fetal personhood". If that's what they do (most likely scenario), then it's entirely up to the states to decide how/if they want to legislate. Most likely states, which generally regulate medical licenses, would find ways to punish doctors for performing abortions...anything from loss of license to criminal charges. [b]Even anti-choice activists have been reluctant to endorse punishing women who get abortions[/b], though, again, it would be up to the states to decide. And one of the more chilling aspects of the most recent crop of anti-choice activists is their absolutism on the issue, being unwilling to include many exceptions for protection of the mother. Frankly, it's a bit more morally justifiable to take an absolutist position on pregnancies resulting from rape ("a life is a life regardless of how it was conceived"), but it's also cruel which is why a majority of Americans don't support it. If the SCOTUS finds that a fetus is a person, then I suspect all of the other questions will also have to be litigated through the courts under existing laws. As is always the case, part of the court's job is to weigh the competing interests of two parties under the law, in this case the mother vs. the fetus. Frankly, this would be a complete mess and the courts are absolutely not equipped to decide this stuff which will turn on a nuanced understanding of reproductive science, but they're deciding a bunch of other stuff that they are not well-equipped to decide like digital privacy, so...[/quote] I get what you're saying here but man that just makes no sense. How could someone argue, simultaneously, that abortion is murder but that girls who receive abortions have done nothing wrong whatsoever? If a husband hired a hit-man to murder his wife, no one would say that only the hit-man should be arrested and charged with a crime. How is this any different? If abortion is murder then it is a crime, period. And everyone involved--from the doctor to the mother to the person who drove her to the doctor--is a party to that crime. The fact that conservatives are willing to completely exonerate the mother indicates that, deep down inside, they don't really believe that abortion is that bad.[/quote] To be clear, I don't agree with any of this. I'm the PP who volunteered in a NICU and feels pretty firmly that reproductive rights should be absolute. I'm just providing my interpretation of the lay of the land with regard to legislative fall out from a SCOTUS decision overturning RvW or possibly more definitively finding abortion itself to be unconstitutional. Anyway, there is quite a bit of hypocrisy in the anti-choice lobby. My sister used to work for PP, and part of her job was getting to know the protestors to put a human face on the PP employees. The idea being they might warn them if some kind of violent attack were coming. My sister says you would not believe the number of protestors who would show up at PP to get abortions and then turn around and rejoin the picket lines. There's a saying that goes something like, "The only justifiable abortion is mine."[/quote]
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