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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Nope you can offer the best possible locally grown, organic apple that was grown in an orchard playing classical musical and someone who lacks impulse control is going to get the chips and dip or doughnuts. The best ever apple can cost a fraction of the chips and it will still be passed by. Sugar, fat and carbs is extremely satisfying to people. It’s more than just taste, it gives them a chemical boost and satisfies cravings. [/b]

I think the person constantly pushing that people are only fat because of the food supply is uninformed. If you are already a normal eater and buy apples then subsidizing them and making them more flavorful is a win for you. It won’t do zip for fat people. But hey the normal sized apple lover can feel superior that she’s helping fat people by getting herself cheaper, tastier apples. [/quote]
I disagree. Just keeping with the apple example for simplicity, it is no longer common to be able to find or purchase the best possible locally grown organic apples and even if we were, our soil is depleted. An apple today is less nutritious than it was before and global warming plus our atrocious farming practices are driving this.

Plus - and you know this, despite your impulse control in thinking - the best ever apple doesn’t cost a fraction of what chips cost because chips are subsidized. Non food is subsidized. Where was your food grown? I’ve spent the last few weeks traveling in my home midwestern state. It’s still, land-wise, a rural-ish state. Do you know what’s grown here? Corn and soy, corn and soy. Across endless acres, non-food food as far as the eye can see. Crop dusted and treated and unable to grow without massive irrigation that drains our aquifers and kills the Mississippi River basin and contributes to the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico.

You want to blame people for being fat,, obviously. It clearly answers a need you have. But obesity is so much more than people’s poor choices as it’s clearly involved with agricultural practices, policies, access to medical care, exposure to chemicals and poisons, it’s part of the story of human driven global warming and yes personal choices, but it’s obviously not just that. And if you were a thoughtful, reflective person you might think about the fact that you enjoy shaming people for what is beyond just their choices and their personal failings and issues are visible in a way that your personal failings are not. [/quote]

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