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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey dum dum. That’s how they measure illegal immigration... 
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It is not, illiterate dum dum.

Detentions reflect US policy -- you can choose to beef up border security and detentions, or let people cross at will.[/quote]

Ok, dum dum. Please share which metric CBP uses to track illegal immigration. Extra points for a link. 
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Easy peasy -- the CBP does not even try track illegal immigration.

They do try to measure it from time to time based on Census data and other public records.

And, separately, they do track border detentions.
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Sorry, the number of apprehensions is the metric they use to track border crossings.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-announces-july-2019-migration-statistics
[i]"U.S. Customs and Border Protection released the agency’s July 2019 migration statistics today. In July, CBP apprehended or encountered 82,049 individuals who crossed the border illegally or were deemed inadmissible at Southwest border ports of entry, pushing the fiscal year to-date (FYTD) enforcement actions on the Southwest border to 862,785."

"CBP attributes the current drop to efforts made by both Mexico and Guatemala, as well as policies such as Migrant Protection Protocol, increased interior enforcement, and the Interim Final Rule."[/i]

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-fiscal-year-2019-southwest-border-migration-stats
[i]"Family Unit Aliens (FMUA) are crossing our borders in record numbers. This fiscal year to date, CBP has seen a more than 300 percent increase in the number of family units apprehended compared to the same time period in fiscal year 2018. Today, family units and unaccompanied alien children (UAC) make up 60 percent of apprehension that have occurred along the southwest border and are predominantly from Central America, namely Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador."[/i]

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2019/09/10/border-numbers-fall-third-month-row-remain-high
[i]"“Under President Trump’s leadership, we’ve been able to utilize a number of tools to help begin to mitigate, but not end, the national security and humanitarian crisis at the southern border,” said Acting CBP Commissioner Mark Morgan. “The continued drop in enforcement actions is encouraging, but make no mistake, we’re still in a crisis and more must be done. Until Congress makes targeted changes to immigration laws, we will continue to see stark challenges.”"[/i]

The chart they use to track "Border Migration" - apprehensions. 
See for yourself: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

[img]https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/u14651/FY20_DEC_SWB_Migration%20graphic.jpg[/img]

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You are confusing 4 different things.

1) The total number of immigrants in our country illegally

2) The annual increase/ decrease in #1. Which includes as some previous PP said people who fly in and overstay their visas.

3) The number of illegal border crossings.

4) The number of detentions while #3

Net net, you are using the increase in #4 to argue that #1 has spiked under Trump, and that's pure BS.

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True that visa overstays would be tracked with other metrics. But the context of this thread was the southern border...so I'll be more explicit:

The # of apprehensions is the metric that CBP (and others, including Pew) uses to track illegal immigration [u]via the southern border[/u].

[img]https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/FT_19.10.30_MexicoBorderUpdate_1.png[/img]
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/11/01/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-5-charts/

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