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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]BL's popularity before IEWU was not based on her acting. It was based on her huge Instagram following, popularity with "fashion people" (hosting Met Gala, Vogue cover, relationships with Versace and other designers), her friendship with Taylor, and her marriage to Ryan Reynolds.

All that stuff together gave her a huge q score. The Shallows, the last movie she opened totally on her own, was a modest success. Hee magazine covers tend to sell. A Simple Favor did decent at the box office and then did really well on streaming, and she has the bigger character in that movie (Kendrick is good but her role is more of the straight man -- Blake for the more fun, showy role).

There are very few people in Hollywood who can do all that. I don't think much of Lively as an actress and find RR really annoying (I have zero interest in Deadpool and find his other ventures grating -- the last time I enjoyed him in a movie was The Proposal), but they both seem to understand celebrity and work it to their advantage, and it makes them a profitable investment. They also seem to have decent work ethics.

I completely understand why Hollywood is backing them. Baldoni is a nobody (sorry) and a lot of the people supporting him now have never seen any of his movies and didn't know who he was a year ago.

It's actually kind of a shame. I know it will get me screamed at on this thread, but having a monster hit like IEWU could have been huge for Baldoni. I think he was in talks to direct the Pacman movie before all this blew up (I mean ugh but that's the kind of garbage Hollywood makes now so it would have been big for him). I tend to think he blew it by not playing the game and figuring out how to work with Lively to his benefit. Even if he "wins" this case and even if Blake's career is in ruins, I think he blew his shot. Not because he'll be labeled a predator (lol this is not the problem in Hollywood people seem to think it is on this thread, look around), but because he showed himself to not know how to work with people like Lively or Reynolds. Are they narcissists? I'm sure they are! Just like everyone else in that town. That's the system. I don't think Baldoni is cut out for it.[/quote]

I think this is the wrong take on Baldoni. He’s less known but the behind the scenes people usually are. Justin still has a lot of influential people on his side in Hollywood too, he’s just not out doing pap walks. As mentioned a few pages ago, Patrick Whitesell’s wife liked his Mother’s Day post. Patrick is just as influential as Salma’s husband and Ari. Wayfarer has done movies with Robert DeNiro and Will Ferrell and have a movie with Scarjo right now that’s premiering at Cannes with Oscar buzz. They’re also still doing business with Sony.

Baldoni is in his early 40s and is the co-founder of a budding film studio, something Blake was probably jealous of. These are the sorts of things she seems to want to do but doesn’t have the business acumen and talent for on her own. JB convinced a billionaire to invest in WF, which was really just an investment in him. JB found Colleen Hoover, secured the rights to two of her books, raised funds for the movie and planned the entire production before Blake was ever hired. He’s clearly a talent, and people should stop peddling this idea that he’s not just because Blake lively said so. This is precisely the reason she needs to pay him damages. She’s unfairly tarnished his brand.

JB is being quiet and staying out of the press, which is honestly what Blake should do, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have supporters and will never work again. [/quote]

I agree it’s clear that the one poster or maybe two supporting Blake and her Hollywood career just don’t understand Hollywood. These are people that think that people magazine has influence.

She had a moment she was young. Gossip girl was a cute show and she was a fashion it girl for a little while. But her moment passed long ago and Ryan is the only reason she gets any projects. She burned a lot of bridges with treating people poorly. She is deeply insecure about not having the creative success of the people that she spends time with. She wanted this movie to be her moment, but she wasn’t willing to put in any of the work. She simply hired editors, got her husband to rewrite a scene, and called herself a producer. Justin had worked for years on creating the world  of this film, and she waltzed in and picked out a few stupid outfits.

It’s the same with her hairline. She didn’t actually spend seven years of hard work conceiving this. Some company came in and said do you want to front this product and pretend it’s yours. Did you think Blake was up late making PowerPoints and pouring over markers research…. give me a break. Vs Scarlett and Gwyneth and other celebs who actually did do the combo of hard work and hiring great business people.

She is super out of touch and simply doesn’t know what she doesn’t know.

She has a huge Instagram following in part because of Taylor and of course because of Ryan. She’s also lost a couple million followers, which is not insignificant.
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