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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The NY Times is doing everything it can to undermine Biden. to wit, look at how perception is shaped versus reality vis a vis the economy

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I mean, how is Biden supposed to be polling well when the media, and especially the NY Times, simply lies about the economy and how well things generally actually are?[/quote]

Honestly, I don’t think many of the people that are voting for Trump based on the economy being terrible are regularly reading the NYT.  Around 90% of NYT subscribers are Democrats. [/quote]

The people that are already 100% committed to voting for Trump aren't doing so because the economy is "terrible". They may use the economy as an excuse for voting for Trump when they discuss their thoughts on the 2024 election with themselves or others but the current the underlying issues in the economy haven't yet begun to have a wide reaching impact and Biden deserves only a small portion of the blame for the underlying issues. An economic downturn will happen within the next 2 to 3 years and it will be felt by the majority of Americans. This next downturn is will be a result of the cyclical nature of our large economy combined with the after effects of trillions of dollars being pumped into the economy in a very short period of time in 2020 and 2021. Trump doesn't have the integrity necessary to hold the position of most powerful person in the world. Most Trump supporters are smart enough to realize this but they push this knowledge to the very back corners of their minds because they don't want to admit they were wrong in supporting him all along. It's basic human nature at it's worst. Yes, in most elections, it's the economy, economy, economy and the economy could actually become a primary factor that causes some undecided voters not to vote for Biden if [b]the downturn [/b]is being felt by more people in October. As of right now, Trump supporters and committed Trump voters aren't in Trump's corner because of the Biden economy.[/quote]

What downturn?

[b]With the exception of inflation[/b], which is rooted in the COVID recovery, there is no downtown.

GDP is up
Unemployment is down.
Job growth is at record highs.
Energy production is at all time highs.
The stock market is riding highs.

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How was the play Mrs Lincoln? With the exception of everything being more expensive, the economy is great [/quote]

FWIW inflation now is lower than it was in October 1984 when Reagan won 49 states. [/quote]

The rate of inflation had diminished significantly during the time frame from when Reagan took office to the 1984 election. Improvement with inflation wasn't a primary reason for Reagan's 1984 landslide victory. The aggressive steps taken by the Fed to reduce inflation actually caused a lot of economic pain during that time period. As it relates to Biden's re-election campaign, the key difference between Reagan and Biden is the fact that well over 50% of Americans approved of Reagan's performance in 1984 compared to the 35% to 40% approval rating Biden has managed during his first term. Most Americans weren't feeling the impacts of a better economy in 1984 relative to where they were in 1980. Reagan was appreciated because his skill as a leader was something Americans hadn't experienced since the 1960s. Reagan, Clinton, and Obama offered something that can best be described as likability and leadership and these traits were more important to their political success than policy. Biden doesn't have that per the perception of most Americans. This isn't something that can be fixed. Trump obviously doesn't have it either. We need a leader to emerge.[/quote]

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