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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous](OP here) Regarding the possible move of Cal & Stanford to the ACC: The only justifiable reason for the ACC to offer Cal & Stanford would be to attract Notre Dame to the ACC as a full football member. Otherwise, the additional travel costs would effectively lessen each ACC member's payout. If Stanford & Cal joined the ACC, it is likely that both football programs would deteriorate as football player recruits would shun both schools as no player would want to endure constant cross-country travel--not even for a "free" Stanford degree. At this point, the options for Stanford & Cal are bleak as even the Big 12 Conference has indicated that it is done with expansion. I doubt that Stanford & Cal will drop their respective football programs, but neither football program could survive as an independent.[/quote] Your first sentence is right. This only works with ND coming in now or in the next couple of years. But the time is likely now. [b]Travel costs would go up a bit but not a lot.[/b] And I think other west coast schools would come in so it would only be 2-3 trips east a year. Right now both schools do 1-2 so not a big increase. [b]Where I disagree is on the recruiting. Stanford would be not impacted no matter what they do.[/b] But as I said above -- [b]travel would not be so bad [/b]and that is not among the top 45 things a high school recruit thinks about. they would be thinking about playing ND, FSU, Miami, and Clemson and dreaming of national championships. [b]And Cal recruiting would expand to the east coast[/b]. Stanford recruiting is already east coast. [/quote] Disagree on all of the bolded statements. Few, if any, 4 star recruits would consider Cal football under any circumstances. Classes are huge--several classes have 1,000 students at Cal--and the San Francisco area is viewed negatively as a city in decline with severe homeless issues and crazed politicians. Football recruits think about travel a lot. Stanford's recruiting would suffer--we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. Travel costs would be about an extra $10 million per year for Stanford & Cal. If offered, the ACC most likely will only offer a reduced share payout of about $30 million for many years. Among academics, Cal may have a good reputation on the East Coast for its graduate programs, but Cal is not well regarded in the Southeast US by the typical sought-after football recruit. [/quote]
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