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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities.  That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.[/quote]

That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them. [/quote]

You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians). [/quote]

DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia. [/quote]

Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt? [/quote]

Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction.  What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations?  Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians?  There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days.  Did your guy give up the coordinates?[/quote]
Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right? 
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Wow you guys work fast.  I just heard about tonight's unstoppable hypersonic khinzal and came to laugh about how last century's patriot missile batteries shot them down again.  But you all were on top of things and ready.  Kudos to your work ethic.  It must be so difficult to keep up appearances these days.[/quote]

This is a very tired tactic of accusing anyone who doesn’t agree with you of being a troll
I simply don’t think that there is joy in children dying[/quote]
You disagreeing is not an issue. The issue is that people like you constantly repeat Russian propaganda talking points. It's tiresome. You're not being a critical, original thinker. You're just parroting the lies the Russian government is spreading through social media.  [/quote]

But it's not like there's only one set of talking points in this space, is it? Ukraine has its own propaganda machine and it is churning out material nonstop.  There's no much original thought there either.  Everyone is parroting someone.[/quote]

I understand that Ukraine is churning out propaganda, but I also understand, because I'm not an idiot, that there's no "two sides" to this conflict. Anyone who thinks there is, is falling for Russian propaganda that is intended to break the resolve of the US and our allies to support an (imperfect) democracy in a war of national survival. Maybe we've gotten used to ambiguous wars, because the US has fought in so many of them. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is not one of them.

I have to wonder what someone is thinking if they look at this conflict and conclude that somehow Ukraine is more than 5% responsible for the war. And that Russia has some legitimate points. [/quote]

I mean there are volumes upon volumes of diplomatic writings and reports, produced by Americans, going back to the 90s, that say NATO's eastward push is a bad idea, flirting with Ukraine is a bad idea, red line blah blah.  Prior to the invasion, it wasn't even remotely controversial.  But now people behave like this never existed. [/quote]
Next, you're going to bring up the nonsense about how the US promised Russia they wouldn't expand NATO east.

The reason countries want to join NATO is because they know if they don't, what happened to Ukraine could happen to them. There's a reason Russia invaded Ukraine and not Estonia. [/quote]

The lies about NATO expansion, there never being any intention of following the Minsk Accords, and the general untrustworthiness of the Ukrainian leadership is going to make a negotiated end difficult. This will grind on until the Ukraine completely collapses. [/quote]

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