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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My year long student teaching program was the most grueling year of my life. I had to submit detailed lesson plans for every single word that came out of my mouth in a 7 hr day one week in advance. I even had to submit lesson plans for weekly spelling tests. After school I had to attend 3+ hrs of grad classes at night. Weekends were spent writing the lesson plans and finding/making materials (pre-internet). While it wasn’t cognitively challenging work, it was exhausting nonetheless. All of it was unpaid and I had to work PT to help pay expenses (plus my student loan had to be repaid after I graduated). My son’s business internships have been fairly low stress and well paid. He goes out to business meals with colleagues that are all paid for. He doesn’t need a PT job because he is being paid. He has no work outside of his 9-5. If people want to attract students to teaching, something needs to change. They could start by paying student teachers. [/quote] Aside from the fact that student teaching is different from being a teacher, I just want to take a moment to point out that this woman is getting weirdly competitive with her son, and is YET another example of how teachers honestly have no idea what happens in the "business" world (lets set aside the fact that they never specify an industry). Yeah, the college student interns sitting at the front desk do indeed have low stress jobs. I don't expect anything of them. This has nothing in common with my job, or the jobs the rest of us have. And yeah, I do regularly pay for the interns to have food because they make almost nothing. It's not some free lunch that materializes out of the imagined good will of my generic "business." I'd be aghast at the idea that my intern's own mom was feeling jealous of them because I sprung for some Subway, lol.[/quote] Agreed. That was a really weird (not to mention very uninformed) post. [/quote] I don't see why it was weird. It was in response to people wondering why more students aren't entering teaching; I think seeing the difference in the internship period is a reason why. [/quote] Her son's high school internship is nothing like the experience the rest of us had. Most of us had to work hard during our training periods. Have you ever seen what a pharmacist has to go through?[/quote] It was her son's business school internship. Why are you giving me some whataboutism with a pharmacy. It was also her sharing her personal experience, which is why I go back to my OG statement that you are...TRIGGERED[/quote] Why is she giving us some whataboutism about her son's high school experience internship working at a front desk?[/quote] Can you share where you think it is a HS internship? Maybe I'm missing something[/quote] Nothing makes it sound like this is the internship of an advanced college student. OP only said it was in a business. Plenty of high schoolers have simple internships during the summer during the transition between HS and college.[/quote] "My son’s [b]business internships[/b] have been fairly low stress and well paid. He goes out to business meals with colleagues that are all paid for. He doesn’t need a PT job because he is being paid. [i]He has no work outside of his 9-5[/i]" Ah yes, those classic situations where HS students have multiple 9 - 5 business internships with paid meals. [/quote] He’s in college. [/quote] I hit submit too soon. The point of my post was that college students talk. Would you rather go into a profession where people think you’re an idiot who couldn’t do anything else or go into a much higher paying profession where you are treated like an educated human being? This is what is happening. Students enrolling in education in college have dropped significantly and now many schools are having unqualified people who have no idea how to teach or even manage a class making up a large percentage of the faculty. Make teaching attractive or your kids will most likely be taught be one of these people. [/quote] The point of your post comparing your working life to your son's useless internship was that college students talk?[/quote] When August rolls around every year, people post about the huge teacher vacancy rates. Schools live on data these days yet they can't figure out what to do with it. Teacher prep programs are enrolling fewer and fewer students each year. If the data crunchers don't ask why, they will have to reap what they sow. Parents should care because they will complain that their kids have long term subs who can't even take attendance correctly. This is everyone's problem.[/quote]
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