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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What happened between 2022 and 2023?  Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced?[/quote]

The data that have been posted are not being represented correctly. These are not the numbers of people killed on DC streets by speeding drivers because no such data exists.

The data instead represents the number of people who were killed in a crash where speeding was determined to be the primary cause of the crash.

As most of us know, crashes often have multiple causes. A drunk person may be speeding, swerving recklessly, not paying attention, lose control of their vehicle, fail to yield, and kill someone. Take away any one of those factors and there is no crash or at least no fatality.

A couple of years ago, a pedestrian was killed on a crosswalk near where I live. The pedestrian was knocked over a hundred feet and it seems very clear as a result that the driver was speeding. But the driver was charged with failing to yield and so that presumably was designated as the primary cause.

This is a long way of making the point that the number of people who have been killed by speeding drivers is not the same as the number of people who were killed in crashes where speeding was deemed to be the primary cause.

Why someone on here wants to intentionally mislead others and minimize the public health hazard posed by speeding, I have no idea. But it is shameful and Jeff really should be deleting those comments.[/quote]

The police call them "speed-related fatalities," which would seem to cover your concerns. [/quote]

There is a chart in one of the reports that is titled “speed-related fatalities”. And if you actually read the report, you will see this explained to the the number of fatal crashes where speed was deemed to be the primary cause (although the methodology of how that determination is made is never explained).

But, again, this has been pointed out in other threads on this forum. Please accept our collective sympathies that you can not remember the clarifications that you have been previously provided to you, but we would really appreciate it if you could stop spreading misinformation that is probably even more damaging to public safety than the anti-vaxxing nonsense.[/quote]

I didn't know there were weird conspiracy theories about police statistics.[/quote]

Bicyclists are mad that the police (who actually investigate what happened in traffic accidents) attribute so few traffic deaths to speeding. So now we have people shouting "fake news" about police reports. [/quote]

Honestly, how stupid do you have to be to not understand the difference between attributing a crash death to speeding and designating speeding as the primary cause of a crash? Are you really an idiot or do you just play one on here?[/quote]

You seem to be conflating necessary and sufficient causes. You can't have a fire without oxygen, so, by your logic, you'd say the presence of oxygen causes fires. [/quote]

Speed is necessary and sufficient to cause a fatal crash.[/quote]

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