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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is impossible to know. Qualified kids are shut out bc of:

- institutional priorities 
- DI not shown enough 
- why us essay shows student doesn’t truly love or understand the school 
- more qualified kids from the same school applied at the same time
- major selected 
- yield protection
- mistake in app (telling Yale you can’t wait to go to Princeton)
- mediocre essays
[b]- mediocre letters of rec[/b]

Etc [/quote]

Often its not this, if the same kid gets into more selective/higher ranked schools.
Agree with the others.[/quote]

I don’t understand this. If the recs are mediocre, why would they get into a MORE selective school and not a less selective school?

Ex. Super high stats. 1550+ 4.0 uw 12APs. Cohesive (and authentic) story and strong ECs. But no national awards or truly unique depth. But assume mediocre recs. Is there a world where they would get into Cornell/Vanderbilt/Northwestern but not Lehigh/Wake/ Lafayette?

I’m not seeing it if poor recs are the problem. If recs keep them out at the latter, I would assume the same would also be true at the former. [/quote]

I think you are agreeing with the PP? 
I agree a bad rec (if sent to all schools), would keep you out of the rest.

Now, to your other question: my kid got into Cornell through RD, was waitlisted at Wake in RD (I think it was yield because the kids from our high school who went had slightly lower stats).[/quote]

Oops. You’re right. I read the previous post wrong. Did you visit Wake in person? Have it on the Common App list from the beginning?[/quote]

Yes, DC visited Wake in person, met with the rep when at school, etc. No interview, though, bc of the timing of the app. No video. Yes, Wake was on Common App from the summer. Our HS sends 2-4 kids to Wake every year.

The enrollment management data determines which students are likely to matriculate from which high schools, and it is very data-driven. DC ended up with multiple higher-ranked options in RD. Feel like the EM data knew this would happen (I have no idea how) and knew Wake wasn't a top 2 choice (bc didn't ED2).[/quote]

Super helpful. Though not encouraging. 😂

One difference is that we’re in the midwest and though Wake sent a rep again this year, few kids at DCs hs tend to apply/go there. Not sure if that’s cuts for or against DC. We’ll see in a few months ….[/quote]

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