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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.  [/quote]

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That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.[/quote]

I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless. [/quote]

Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. [b]I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.[/b] [/quote]

If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense. [/quote]

I am with the other poster. I am not sure i see that narrative about thin women being mad about ozempic because it makes them less special or because they are jealous. That sounds a bit unhinged tbh. I am "naturally" thin by DCUM standards. Not as athletic as i would like but undeniably thin. And I am happy for people finding solutions that work for them and make them more comfortable in their body. Happy for my friends IRL who take ozempic and finally see results or for the DCUM posters. You being thin or overweight doesn't affect me.

I 100% believe that ozempic helped reveal new insights on metabolic health and why some people really have a hard time staying thin despite drastic efforts. It looks like a pretty amazing drug. What I am personally worried about are the potential  side effects of taking the drug or the sustainability of the process, but not because i find it morally wrong, just because i don't want anybody getting hurt. And def no anger and judgement.

If there is an anger narrative i have noticed it more coming from the overweight and the health focus groups. From the overweight and/or body image conscious people because of the fear that it creates new standards and a backlash on acceptance of all body types, that ozempic could feed ED-like behaviors, a return to the heroin-chic look of the late 90s-early 2000s and an additional moral judgement on the poor who cannot afford to buy ozempic and be thin. From the health focus/exercise group because it makes people again too focused on losing weight and pulling them away from focusing on having a strong healthy body in favor of "superficial" "vanity" weight loss (a bit like the cigarette weight loss ads of the 1950s). The judgement here being that Ozempic could allow people to skip the motivation and discipline for exercise, which would be a mistake.

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OK I can't believe I have to say this, but....maybe you don't notice it because no one is directing it toward you? If you are white, do you tell people of color that they are creating a narrative and that racism doesn't exist because you don't notice it? Maybe those of us who have been the subject of ridicule, comments, “well meaning” advice etc etc etc etc for all of our lives recognize these same behaviors now with the way that people react to the medicines. NOTHING is good enough – you judge people who are fat, and then you judge the way that they try to lose weight – often the only thing that has ever worked for them. Why are you looking and twisting so hard to make it a bad thing?

And then! You list a whole lot of criticism of medicine that you already admit you don’t need.  Not that it is any of your business, but let me take these uninformed criticisms one by one – (from the perspective of your average overweight person on the drugs, not some thin celebrity who is abusing it)

1)	“From the overweight and/or body image conscious people because of the fear that it creates new standards and a backlash on acceptance of all body types”  – Very few actual fat people are worried about this. We should stay fat and endanger our health so there is more fat acceptance? Really? 
2)	“that ozempic could feed ED-like behaviors” – So we shouldn’t lose weight because we may get addicted to losing weight? 
3)	“an additional moral judgement on the poor who cannot afford to buy ozempic and be thin” - Obviously cost is a problem but should we stop taking heart medications that some poor people can’t afford also in solidarity? 
4)	“because it makes people again too focused on losing weight and pulling them away from focusing on having a strong healthy body in favor of "superficial" "vanity" weight loss” – Come again? Did you know that most people on these medicines are exercising more than they have in their entire lives? Ask any of us. And we are too focused on losing weight? This isn’t about appearance for most of us – it’s about health. And didn’t you want us to lose weight? And now we are too focused on it? 
5)	“(a bit like the cigarette weight loss ads of the 1950s)” - Wait so now it’s regressive to want to lose weight? Choose a lane please. 
6)	“The judgement here being that Ozempic could allow people to skip the motivation and discipline for exercise, which would be a mistake.” – Do you have any idea what this medicine does? See above about exercise.

Obesity is a disease. It is like alcoholism or something else that has always been seen by many as a moral failing but actually is a difference in metabolism and brain chemistry for a lot of people. All this medicine does is put us on a level playing field with “normal” people. We still have to do the work. If you eat too much or are not active at all you will not lose a ton of weight or keep it off long term. We are not stupid. You spent so much time here finding reasons that these medicines are bad. Focus on your own self, please!

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I am the PP you are responding to. You didn’t understand my post. 
1- I am not talking about real life encounters. I am reading this forum and sharing my opinion about the “anger narratives” we can pick up across the threads. And I will say it again, I don’t think the whole idea of naturally thin women being jealous of GLP1 users and feeling angry about losing their privilege is a real thing. I think that is happening in the head of a few people here but I am not seeing it and I am not buying it.
2- the other anger narratives I am summarizing are not mine. They are the ones I came across on this site. I think GLP1s are a great medication. I don’t think it is worth it for a few vanity pounds (like for someone like me who likes to lose 5 pounds before the summer and go from a size 4 to a size 2). Not out of any moral judgement, just because I don’t like to take any medication I don’t really need. I don’t pretend to know who needs and who doesn’t need it. Only speaking for myself.[/quote]

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