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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PS: There's a difference between "asking questions" in a polite and respectful way, and asking them in a way that comes with insults, rude challenges, and an insistence to do excessive work for free when it isn't medically indicated. [/quote]

Challenging a doctor is okay. They are not gods, and we are the ones who will die if they are wrong. [/quote]

Of course it’s ok, as in it’s legal and it’s within your right. As you say, it’s your body, and you can challenge the doctor every step of the way as they try to help your body.  But that’s exhausting for your doctor to be antagonized at literally every turn and while you might think, “who cares?”, your doctor is going to dismiss you from the practice or, as PP said, start ordering a zillion tests and say “take your pick, do any of these that you’d like” even though that’s against their better medical judgment. If you don’t trust their medical judgment, why not just move on to someone else??[/quote]

There can be a back and forth. A conversation. That does not mean you don’t trust your doctor, rather you want to be sure you agree with what she is recommending. [/quote]

DP. No, absolutely. When you have a civil conversation that is a reasonable back and forth about recommendations, the basis for recommendations, pros and cons, like a pair of adults? That's fine. If it's going to be a long conversation, or likely so, it should be something both agree to set aside time for, then sure.

We can have those conversations online in some forums, with some people. They are great conversations, and they make for the best kind of informed health care, including when people disagree with professional medical recommendations.

But it shouldn't be 4chan in that doctor-patient relationship, or DCUM Political Forum, or the YouTube comments under a video of Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl. We all know the difference between civil discussion and an edgelord coming in from the side quoting Ayn Rand with a side of "you're not my supervisor!"

Nobody knows how any of us really are when we are in a private conversation like that. I can tell you all day long how I am as a doctor (or how I see myself being, granted), or even how I am as a patient -- and you can sneer and call me any names you like. Or we could speak civilly about it, or whatever. The crux of it, though, is that people need good healthcare, and with emergent crises aside, good care never comes when people are working in opposition to each other. If they are, it's the professional's job to end that, not prolong it. If it's not helping, it isn't helping, and it's unethical to take money for it regardless. [/quote]

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