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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is there a best time of year to ask for a promotion within my current position?  I'm in an alternate pay system without steps, and my position is outside the merit raise system (ughh!).

I know that for many other things in the gov, when during the fiscal year makes a difference.  Especially, just before the end of the fiscal year is a good time to ask for stuff. However, I'm thinking that after I ask for a promotion to the next band my manager will need time to make it happen.  Anyone out there know when the process would need to begin to get it done by the end of FY?  Or should I target the beginning of the next FY?[/quote]

I used to be in a pay-banded position and I've never seen anyone moved to a new band without going through the competitive promotion process. You can tell them you want it, but you'll likely have to compete for it. Occasionally, they will find the money to open the higher-level position and make the posting and then the person they intended to hire doesn't make the cert and they hire someone else. Sometimes they close the opening and open another one (but I see that happening less often now because if people get approved for an opening, they really want to get that person in while they can, even if it's not the person they expected). If they think you're likely to leave, they sometimes will still raise your pay within your band. The easiest way I've seen people get raises is to find an outside offer and ask it to be matched. Try getting a job in the private sector and then bring the offer back to your supervisor. You can do that at any time of year. It's a little squirmy, so not everyone likes to do it, but honestly, I think the vast majority of people who do it are legitimately wondering what they're worth in the Private Sector and going out interviewing sometimes tells them they're worth quite a bit more and they do leave. So, even if you have no intention of leaving in reality, that doesn't mean you won't get an offer you find difficult passing up. Also, when this tactic doesn't work, people sometimes leave when they realize that they aren't necessarily as valued as they once believed.[/quote]

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