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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Either Kaya needs to refocus the whole testing / teacher evaluation scheme or she needs to go. What we have now is just not good enough for students or teachers.[/quote]

Yes. Because NCLB and all education is really about teachers, and not students. We should not test students and teachers should not be accountable for students' results.  Thank god. Especially here in DC where everything was great before Rhee. [/quote]

Hence, 'refocus' rather than 'trash / get rid of'.  Or do you think that what we have now is just fantastic?[/quote]

Wow, you almost fooled me with that creative word play.  "Are you or are not still beating your wife?"  I don't know that it is fantastic but I don't know that I object to testing. And the PARCC results are new, but I have to say that from the practice test questions I've seen I'm not sure it isn't testing the tight things the right way.  I believe in testing, data and feedback. And I believe in teacher accountability. I have lived in DC for a long time and I was here before the all-hated Rhee imploded central admin. I was here when there was lots and lots of dead weight teaching in schools. I also believe that teachers don't have necessary perspective about what a job is like outside of DC (or other schools). I have teachers in my family who say things like, "You don't understand, without tenure I could be fired just because my boss dislikes me." And I try and explain that's how most of the rest of us live. I believe teachers need to be measured and held to account for failures. I believe that teachers aren't saviors (and just today I hugged an aid in my kid's class because she has one kid who is out of control and she needed some support), but that it's not enough to say they testing isn't perfect so there should be no standards. And I believe that the teacher lobby and outspoken people (on DCUM and elsewhere) do more damage to their cause than they realize when they take intractable positions that defy logic and reason. I think that's why people like me have tuned out the teacher lobby because at some point you just ignore the obstructionist child in the corner.

If WTU or the DCPS teachers have a proposal to reform testing and teacher measurements, I'm listening. But you're losing the battle with the false choices and all or none approach.[/quote]

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