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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous wrote:
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I went to Madison and loved it! Can't think of a lakeside similar but will think about it

Do you think my DD has a chance of getting in? Not sure how competitive it is to get in….

Probably less competitive than it was last year, when tenured professors still had tenure.

Get your facts straight. Professors still have tenure, it is just not in the State Constitution anymore. However, the Board of Regents passed a measure protecting tenure. This really makes it no different than most other states and it doesn't affect protessors in the least. As for competitiveness, Wisconsin actually went up several spots in the rankings this year.[/quote]
Will not last. The best people are leaving the school.[/quote]

Oh please.  Like who?  The two chemistry professors who were going to Minnesota to work in some 3M lab, but complained on their way out?  I am an alum and I have heard nothing about the "best people" actually leaving.  Where are they going to go? To the majority of other state schools that do not have a constitutionally guaranteed tenure?  There were some loud histrionics from the liberal faculty about the legislature's actions, but it seems like only a  few people have left and probably for other reasons. I am sure that most of them are smart enough to know that they still have tenure and their lives will not change in the least.  They can still go on getting paid 150K or more for teaching two classes nine month out of the year.  [b]It is the poor staff members who do not have tenure that suffered when they lost their jobs due to the budget cuts.  [/b]So, if you are going to cry for anyone, cry for them, not the privileged professors.                   [/quote]

NP.  In the long run, would this not affect the operations of the school?  As to the tenure issue, would the protections you mentioned included newly hired professors as well as the grandfathered-in professors?  [/quote]

For the last time, tenure has not been changed for anyone.  It is just no longer in the state constitution.  It is still protected and enshrined by the Board of Regents.  No big deal.  The whole controversy was just an opportunity for the liberal faculty to throw shade on the conservative legislature, which they have a right to do.  But, please, they really need some perspective.  Most of the taxpayers who pay their salaries do not have the job security or perks that they have, so they should really quit complaining and get back to their cushy part-time six-figure jobs.              [/quote]

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