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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've read all of the books because some folks I respect recommended them. I did not like them as much as they did. There is some great stuff in there and a lot of bloat. GRRM is wandering all over the place. He fell in love with his world and piles layer on top of layer from multiple POV characters. He needs an editor to force him to dial it back and focus on his main characters and storylines. The other stuff with minor characters is good, but should have been published as short stories. He has a huge bloat problem.

I think the TV series is better than the books because it focuses on a handful of main characters and moves the plot forward more rapidly than GRRM can. It's gorgeously filmed and well acted. Hedley and Dinklage and Dormer and the actor who plays Varys and the actor who plays Lady Oleanna, in particular, are doing  outstanding work.

I am not upset about what happened to Sansa. In a medieval society, this was one of the outcomes for women. I think the show is doing a lot of exceptional work examining how women use power and are victimized by power in a patriarchal society. As much as I hate Cersei, her abject fear when her father tells her that she has to marry again was heart-breaking.  Sansa, Oleanna, early Dani, Margarey, and Catelyn are all about women learning to wield soft power in a patriarchal society. Arya and Brienne and later Dani are all about what happens when women take a more masculine approach to power and agency.  I think this may be some of the most feminist writing I've seen in a while.

If the treatment of Sansa makes people uncomfortable, good. It should.  My grandmother had a marriage that involved a lot of that treatment.  It isn't pretty.

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One of the main points of discontent for the GOT books is that he starts off strong and the later books have a bunch of plot lines that have main characters wandering around aimlessly. So you are right there is a lot of bloat.

+1 on the perspective on women in GOT. This was an unpleasant reality  and is still for many women still in many parts of the world. I am getting tired of the knee jerk outrage by spectators on any minuscule thing that triggers them. The people condemning the Sansa rape are actually not giving her more credit for how strong she is and how she will start playing the game. [/quote]

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