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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here (and PP that you responded to). Nah, I didn't did the 'when is jesus coming back' thread - no need to ask, that which is known already - dude isn't coming back.

There are a lot of us that post here, I odn't post much personally but it is nice to know others are setting the record straight and shining light on 'the darkness'.

I did go overboard with the 'draw Mohammed' thing, but the sentiment is still sound in that I think it is the responsibility of muslim-athiests to be trailblazers and shoulder the burden of shining the light in their community. It is part of the 'reformation' process that the muslim world so desperately needs.[/quote]

I disagree that the sentiment behind "draw Mohammed" is "sound" -- [b]you're not going to change anybody's mind by getting in their faces and up their noses. If anything, common sense says you'll make them tune you out and harden their positions.[/b] Just look at the reaction to that "Jesus is coming back" poster--extremely unlikely that OP changed a single mind, and there's certainly no post on that thread going "OMG you're right, I'm becoming an atheist!"

I also disagree that ex-Muslim PP has a "responsibility" to be a trailblazer. IMO, it would be good if ex-Muslim PP can be a trailblazer, but only if she's willing to shoulder the emotional, familial, and other burdens that come with trailblazing. You seem naturally pretty aggressive, but not everybody is very aggressive, moreover you're on the internet and you're asking her to deal with real people.

FWIW, I agree that Islam needs a reformation. But reformation will have to come from within. No way is it going to come because people are holding offensive "draw Mohammed" parties. The biggest factors won't be ex-Muslims writing books about headscarfs and hymens, either. It's going to have to come from ordinary Muslims who look at Paris and Syria and ask what it is that causes some members of the faith to act this way. Remember that Luther's reformation challenged an institution, but a lot of the issues raised by ISIS go right to the heart of the faith.[/quote]

wrong, wrong, wrong.  Where would blacks and women and gays be today if they hadn't gotten in people's faces?[/quote]

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