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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][W]e expect and demand more from men, more than a roof over our heads and a steady income. We expect men to have good self esteem, integrity, emotional health and maturity,  a good work ethic, and good parenting and partner skills.  As the playing field has leveled, men have had to up their game. And the antifeminists are the ones who can't or don't want to.  They are the ones who can't adapt.  
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[quote=Anonymous]I don't get it. Why don't men pick up the devotion to children and hearth and home aspects of "femininity"?[/quote]

I think Ironwood's partial response to that is, "Sure, Masculinity ain't what it used to be either, and we own that.  We allowed ourselves to be talked out of our better masculine nature in the false hope that it would lead to a better domestic life, social harmony, and more sex.  What we got was more demands, more requirements, and less sex."

Some do take up hearth and home, but the manospherians will tell you that these men generally aren't as attractive to women. Anecdotally, I've certainly seen around here that a lot of women want a "man's man," and/or "a provider." So, if a young man's options are to make himself less attractive by taking care of hearth & home or to remain attractive in exchange for more demands, more requirements, and less sex, he's likely to just check out, sleep around where he can (play video games and watch porn where he can't), but not commit to marriage.  [/quote]

Well then, luckily loser dude won't be passing on his genes or personality to any future generations. So this generation of failure men -- ones who can't help out at home and also can't live up to higher expectations -- will die out. Fingers crossed all the FWB women they are hooking up with are feminist enough to use BC. [/quote]

Do you think family life is, as a whole, happier, less happy, or about the same as it was 100 years ago? Do you think feminism had an impact one way or the other?[/quote]

"Family life"? What does that mean? You mean how happy men were with their families? Or how happy everyone was to be taken care of by someone who didn't have a choice because that was the only role that person had in society?

I can guarantee you I'm a whole lot happier now than I would have been living in 1915. Women couldn't even vote then. [/quote]

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