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[quote=Anonymous]I mostly enjoyed this blog post from Ian Ironwood entitled "Of Feminism and Femininity: A Brief History." http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/2015/05/of-feminism-and-femininity-brief-history.html I've become mostly disillusioned with the "Manosphere" and this post could have done with a good editor to pare it down, but Ironwood is insightful and doesn't seem consumed by hate like so many of the other manosphere writers seem to be. There's a little more "feminism sucks" and "you reap what you sow" in this post for my tastes. But I think he presents an interesting historical account of how feminism has changed notions of femininity over the past 80 years or so and what that has meant to the family and marriages. He suggests that feminists have encouraged women to embrace types of femininity that have left both genders conflicted and largely unhappy. Some quotes: "Femininity is experiencing an identity crisis again because now that it has successfully established "Independent Earner" into its matrix, it doesn't know how to make it relate to the other cast-off identities a woman has in her metaphorical closet. The problem is that "Independent Earner" is now the dominant paradigm in Femininity, at direct odds with "Home & Hearth" and "Motherhood". And it's sharing a mostly-unhealthy relationship with "Sex Kitten", these days. " . . . On the one hand, the "romantic desire" for a permanent relationship is there . . . but feminism has successfully re-written the social rules enough to use any woman's apparent success in a relationship as prima facia evidence of her failure as "Independent Earner". A woman who is successful in her professional life is NEVER lauded for her relationship or her family, even if she has them. Particularly not her husband. . . . " What was left - what you are left with - is pretty desolate, from a masculine perspective. There was no dedication to children, except in abstract, no devotion to domestic skills, no cultivation of a warm and loving heart to encourage his own perseverance in the face of adversity. Instead young men looked at what their futures held with these determined, driven, highly-competitive girls who saw marriage and family as check boxes and his role as "guest husband" in her domestic fantasies. The looked at it, saw the pain and agony of their divorced dads, saw the misery in the eyes of their married friends, and realized that it just wasn't worth the effort. By that point feminism's odd ideas about sex had progressed to where sex within marriage was the absolute most boring, patriarchal, non-feminist sex you could have. They denigrated husbands and men in general in popular culture and made the term itself one of cultural disrespect. With that kind of painful humiliation to look forward to in the institution formerly known as marriage, the young men had a decision to make. So the dudes shrugged, went back to porn and video games and women went crazy, a little."[/quote]
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