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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought agnostic meant "I don't give a shit"

and atheist meant "there is no god"
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So, do you think agnostics don't even want to talk/think about it and atheists want to make a point of it?  Do you have strong feelings about one vs the other? [/quote]

Agnostics tend to think it's really impossible to prove there is no god, and it's impossible to prove there is a god.  So it becomes an intellectually pointless exercise debating it.  It's far more useful to focus on devising a system of ethics that doesn't rely on something that can't be proven one way or the other.

We can only know what our brains are capable of knowing.  That includes knowledge that comes from our senses as well as knowledge that comes as a result of reasoning and logic.  When you start talking about a theoretical being that exists *outside* of the realm of sensory knowledge and beyond reason, then there is no proving or disproving it.  And to assume that sensory knowledge and human reason is the boundary of all that exists is naive and equally obnoxious, because you can point to all kinds of moments in history when we *thought* we knew the limits of time and space but then realized we were wrong.

So the entire exercise just seems silly.[/quote]

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