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[quote=Anonymous]OP -  It is probably in part b/c you are at a school where you know many kids have gone to ivy league schools that you or you son feel this way.   For unhooked kid to get into these schools, they usually are No. 1 or 2 in their class in a large public school. I forget which, but one of the ivies used to advertise the percentage of kids who were ranked no. 1 or 2 (and don't be fooled, colleges still have a good feel for the rank of others based on general GPA tables (where is the top 10% cut off, top 20% etc.)    And yes, =/- 2200 is a stretch for an unhooked kid.  Aim for 2300+ and the English and math "count" more than writing.  What about SAT IIs?  You didn't mention those.  Does your DC have any SAT IIs north of 750?  Any 800s?  And, of course, lots of 5's on AP tests? Yes, this is really what it takes these days to get into H/Y/P/etc. as a base if you not hooked and even then you need to somehow show you are unique compared to the other 5,000 applicants with the same statistics.   You son should start working on weaving his unique story into his common app essay. Good luck. [/quote]

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