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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Op here: thanks for the explanation off jihad( esp the inner struggle) vs just the view of the holy war on infidels. I wish the media would show the moderate Muslims denouncing the extremists. [b]Whether they think it's a struggle to stand up for  their beliefs or not-- they are killing.[/b]... To the poster who noted about the peace sign-- in Gaza that means "bring back Palestine" or so,etching like that.... Not peace per se. [/quote]

True. But the question becomes one of "when is killing justified?"

As Americans, we have killed FAR, FAR more innocent/civilian Muslims, than they have killed us. Many, many times over. It doesn't make retaliation on anyone ok, but if you're talking about killing, Muslims (in the big "conflict" countries) are losing the numbers game on lives they've taken. Islam is the concerning religion of the moment, but Christians have historically been responsible for shedding much much more blood.

There is a saying in Islam, that if you kill just one person, it is if you've killed the whole of humanity. Believe it or not, killing is very much frowned upon in Islam. But all religions, all countries, all politics often have their exemptions on when it's ok - mostly in the name of self defense. Why are we allowed to justify our reasons, but not them?

I'm not making excuses, but sometimes we have our own bias, and it's easy to assume that our own associations are always doing right. But this is not always true...[/quote]

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