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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh, please.  The private sector surveils average Americans far more than the government does.  They know your most intimate personal habits and information - where you live, where you work, your shopping habits, your medical issues, what size clothes you wear, what your vices are, your sexual orientation and habits, the places you go, who your friends and family are, what organizations you are involved in, et cetera et cetera et cetera....

That kind of blows away the whole "privacy" issue.[/quote]

It's different.  Most of their information comes from the use of credit cards or internet.  This is a choice that you make, and you can decide who you want to deal with.  I don't think any company knows my "most intimate personal habits".[/quote]

You are living in delusion. Google knows way more about you than the USG does.  I somewhat agree with the PP that the risks are more Kafka than Orwell to the extent that once you're in the bureaucracy, it's hard to exit it. I disagree as to the evil intent. The public expects two contradictory things - they want all bad things stopped and immediate answers when something bad does happen, but they don't want to be "watched" and want openness and transparency. They also have a simplistic view that "valid suspects" spring from the earth fully formed with big signs on their necks, so you can create a list of valid "targets" without the tools to give you the situational awareness that there is plot in the first place. So they write laws that essentially say "please make omelettes but do not break any eggs".

Google, Facebook, Apple and other companies just do whatever they want, change their agreements with the user base with no recourse, and don't have any obligations to uphold Constitutional principles. They just want to make money.

I know which one concerns me more. [/quote]

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