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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People are born bad.  We are not good and don't let your feelings cloud the fact that we are all "me first". Could you imagine a child raised with absolutely no parent contact to teach right and wrong?  Most of right and wrong we believe is based on having a civil society and making us comfortable not being moral . It's like loving your children... We love them because we get a reward too... We don't love others children. 
Once you understand that we all are bad you can understand why Christ was sacrificed . We are in a dire situation but God has given us a free gift.  We just have to admit we are bad and accept the gift ... We don't have to do anything else. Most people don't think they need the gift because they think they are "good people ", lol ... Like " I'm good .. I recycle ". Once you come to grips with the fact that you and everybody else is bad it all comes together. Btw .. If your church is pushing you away just find a small group to read the bible and discuss deep matters made up of people you can trust. Even just one other is fine and quit that other church. 
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People are not "born bad".  We are good.  Every single person on this planet has good in them.  In some people it is really hard to see, but it's there.  Why on earth would a God who is by definition, the ultimate "good", create bad people?  He didn't.  He can't.  He is good.  When we say "love" "good" "peace".... We are simply using other words for what some people call God.  God cannot create "bad" because God is light and love.

God allowed the world to form and put humans on it to learn.  We grow towards "good" (enlightenment, heaven,....) as we are challenged. That's why we are here - to learn to love so that someday we can be joined with that all-powerful, all -loving good.

I don't know much -  but I know that humans are not born "bad".  And I know that a universal loving force for good governs our reality.  All humans are part of "God" and therefore inherently good.[/quote].

So since we are naturally good , why did God think it was necessary to have his only begotten son ripped to shreds and sacrificed?[/quote]

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