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[quote=Anonymous]Roundup (an herbicide not an insecticide) doesn't really work because English ivy has very waxy leaves. Plus it's really toxic shit that you don't want to use where your family will be or have wash into the surface or groundwater.

I pulled up English ivy and vinca (periwinkle -- hate both with a redhot passion) from several beds in front of my house last summer. It was brutal but doable. As PP said, do it when the ground is wet -- and if it doesn't rain, you can always use a hose or sprinkler to soak the ground to help loosen everything up. I put landscape fabric down and planted through it by cutting Xs in it, then mulched with pine nuggets (heavier and don't break down as fast as shredded mulch). The landscape fabric is sort of a mixed blessing -- eventually you want to pull it up and get rid of it because when it shows and gets torn up it looks bad -- but it gave me that extra certainty that I was entombing any ivy and periwinkle that I might have missed. The flowers I have growing instead are so gorgeous, I have never regretted the backbreaking work![/quote]

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