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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here again. FWIW, my grandparents never had baby rooms for me, my siblings and cousins and they were still great. All of that stuff was on my parents. Is this a new babyboomer thing or something?[/quote]

Not new at all. My grandparents were involved in my life growing up as were the grandparents of many of my friends. My mom put baby stuff into one of her bedrooms so when my kids stayed over they had a kid friendly room to be in. You seem to not really want any contact with them at all, as you obviously can't stand them as people. That is more abnormal than having having grandparents involved. It sounds like you are glad you are moving far so you don't really ever have to see them so this is only a brief period where they might expect to see their grandchild - maybe you could put up with a brief monthly visit until you move although that might be even harder for them to meet their grandchild then not get to maintain any type of relationship after you move. [/quote]

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