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[quote=Anonymous]Here's a claude summary of the 2 long Lessons Learned Threads (I definitely think its missing stuff, but...) 📚 Lessons Learned: 2024–2025 (42 pages) [u]Timing & Early Action:[/u] Treat all applications as due Nov 1. Many parents were surprised how much EA/ED matters — acceptance odds are dramatically better early. Get SAT/ACT scores as high as possible — even 10 points on the SAT can make a real difference for merit aid. Start the personal essay as soon as junior year ends. The best essays took months of refinement. New, better ideas emerge over time. Submit everything EA even for schools with later deadlines — but be aware kids sometimes lose motivation after early admits. Push them to finish everything before any results come in. [u]School List Strategy:[/u] 1 safety is often enough. Many parents said they wasted money and time applying to 2–3 safeties their kid had no intention of attending. Avoid letting your kid fall in love with a single "dream school." Instead, build a list of 4–5 schools they'd genuinely be excited to attend. Check the Common Data Set for each school to see if demonstrated interest actually matters before spending money on visits. Major matters enormously — e.g., one poster's kid got into UT Film school OOS while everyone else was deferred. Know your budget before your kid starts researching schools. Don't let them fall in love with a school that's never going to be affordable even with aid. [u]ED/Counselor Advice:[/u] Don't blindly trust school counselors — multiple parents (public and private) said they wish they'd done more independent research. Being a legacy with VIP/donor parent connections has a huge, visible impact at top schools. ED is a gamble. Girls from competitive private schools noted boys were getting in with significantly lower stats in the 2024-25 cycle. Girls tend to have stronger early-round results; boys tend to benefit from waiting for RD. Early rounds may favor female applicants before gender-balancing kicks in during RD/waitlist. Waitlist movement in 2025 was reported as heavily skewing toward boys. [u]Mindset:[/u] Things are not as dire as forums make them seem for most students. Deferral early doesn't doom RD results — some families found it was actually useful motivation to improve essays for RD. Your kid's preferences will change between summer before senior year and December. A kid who EDed to a small rural SLAC may want a big urban campus by winter break. 📚 Lessons Learned: 2025–2026 (30 pages, ongoing through April 2026) [u]ED Strategy:[/u] Don't ED to a school where no one from your high school has ever matriculated — you lose a key data point and school context. Be cautious about ED at small SLACs where a large portion of spots go to recruited athletes via pre-reads. The ED rate can be very misleading. If EDing to a reach, make sure your kid keeps working on RD apps with the expectation they won't get in. This softens the blow of a deferral. Do NOT panic-ED2 to a lesser school just because your kid is scared after an ED1 deferral. Let them work through it and fall back in love with RD options. Conventional wisdom that you must ED somewhere to get in is not always true — one parent reported their kid got into 2 of 3 schools (Tufts, UChicago, WashU) applying RD only. [u]School List:[/u] Fewer safeties is better for high-stats kids — 1 solid safety is typically enough; spending time on safety apps is often wasted energy. The "right" school list is very personal. If you have a second kid, don't assume what worked for kid #1 applies. [u]T20 Applications:[/u] Each T20 school sees itself as unique. The supplemental essays need to reflect that you genuinely understand what makes that specific school different. But the outcomes are also highly unpredictable — "wild last minute no-research apps panned out" for some, while meticulously tailored ones didn't. Internal coherence matters most: the different parts of the application should reinforce the same story about the student. CollegeVine was reported as actually under-predicting outcomes for some high-stats kids. Many families saw strange mismatches — kids admitted to each other's dream schools but feeling meh about their own results. Counselors: Same recurring theme: don't rely solely on school counselors (public or private). Do your own research.[/quote]
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