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[quote=Anonymous]I also read the article and I have a 17 year old boy who is into working out and trying to look better for girls. Luckily he is also quite progressive and views this whole thing with a bit of disdain, but I also know some of it has to be seeping into his brain.

I think it's a daily deprogramming of everything that is being fed to these teens on the internet. It would be GREAT to just disappear the phones and the technology but that isn't a reasonable solution. (By the way, Clavicular is funded by Peter Thiel)

I think you have to really engage in conversations that push back on this worldview without just lecturing him that what he is into is wrong. It all depends on your son and his friends and such, but for example -- I have pointed out that one of the most "popular" kids in my son's grade is not at all conventionally good-looking - but he has charm and charisma and girls are drawn to that. We've talked about doing meaningful things, on a day to day basis and as your life's work (I've starting showing him movies that make this point so I'm not the one pounding on it, i.e. things like Erin Brockovich or Spotlight).

The only way to push back against this bullshit is to do it every day, subtly and sometimes not so subtly, and have lots of conversations. I wish there was a way to block horrible people from our kids' instagram feeds etc but there really isn't.

Now we boy moms know what girls moms have been dealing with forever -- for some reason lately I've been fed up a bunch of influencers who glamorize anorexia and it's absolutely horrific.

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