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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When did they really, reliably start sleeping through? Yes, we sleep trained and they fall asleep independently at bedtime. No, it didn't make much of a difference. DC is 18 months old and wakes up crying/will not stop until attended to multiple nights a week. We are not infrequently up for a couple hours in the middle of the night. Naps at daycare which may be an issue, thus the late bedtime.

I'm so tired.[/quote]

1. How much sleep are you aiming for total?
2. You say naps, as in plural? If more than 1 nap, you need to cut that ish out! If one nap, how long?
3. How much wake time and how much energy are you getting out before bedtime? What does he eat- are you serving him full fat foods? Dinner should have some type of fat- avocado, olive oil, nut butters, fatty fish, liver (get beef and beef liver meatballs), etc. 
4. Has he been evaluated by an ENT?

My biggest regret was just assuming my kid was a bad sleeper and that it was the only problem. Yes, he was lower sleep needs but he also woke up frequently because of the tonsils and adenoids. Had a sleep study that confirmed mild sleep apnea. 4 weeks after his surgery and he stopped moving in bed and waking up. Had only slept through the night 30 times from infancy to 5!
 He still needs only 10 hours at just turned 8 but he falls asleep after 10 minutes of reading with one of us and then 10 minutes of snuggles. Sleeps until he wakes. Pees randomly in the middle of the night and goes right back to sleep. Covers stay on the bed. He doesnt sweat at night as much. Doesnt need water in the middle of the night. 
 He needed his tonsils and adenoids taken out to address the MOTN wakings but even if we had the surgery earlier he never would have been sleeping 7-6 like some of the kids you heard about. From 3-4, he still had to lay down for 2 hours (1-3) and bedtime was 930/10. Didnt fall asleep and couldnt read so books were only so helpful but he was not stimulated/active for 2 hours every day. The WORST year by far. We actually wont return to the very local daycare (within 5 minutes) with our second because of this issue. If 75% of the kids arent sleeping the full 2 hours you may need to update your expectations for nap time.  :roll:

Also check iron and vit D levels. If low or on the lower end, supplement. Liposomal iron. 
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