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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is significant cost to school systems for the extra seats, plus extra ESL and other services.[/quote] This was the complaint from neighbors who moved from a different state. The school basically communicated in sort of round about language that the amount of ESL students had overwhelmed special services and so were limited in ability to do much for their child, who was very behind in reading. In addition, realistically, yes it burdens healthcare costs, particularly if it js a region with a very high population of undocumented, uninsured. Without insurance, folks will defer to emergent care and EMTALA laws require us to treat - which can get complicated for patients that need to be admitted because they have had a stroke, etc. Hospitals cannot discharge someone if the discharge is unsafe. As one example, I worked on a stroke unit where we had a few patients with very long term hospital stays (in one case nearly a year) because they were stabilized, but required considerable care and would need to be in a long term nursing facility. Without a social security number or insurance, could not safely discharge them anywhere so they literally lived in an acute care hospital. All that saying, some limits make sense, but also, the approach of the current administration with poorly trained ICE officers targeting people based on skin color and accent, shipping them to prison, yeah that is unethical. Furthermore, I do believe immigration diversity is a strength - incredibly hard workers, great teamwork, innovative ideas, and heck, even diversity of religions means it is easier for different people to take off their various holidays. So my experience with immigration in healthcare work is also very positive - most of the staff I worked with were immigrants (as a white person, I was in the minority in my unit).[/quote] The point about EMTALA would be moot if all the people involved had status. The problem is not the people but how we choose to treat them.[/quote]
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