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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a 2025 non hybrid forrester.  Great visibility.  We debated waiting for the hybrid version decided to buy before tariffs hit.

I hear good things about the Subaru hybrid. It uses slightly older hybrid tech adopted from Toyota. Only like $1500 more than non-hybrid

The digital gauge cluster is said to be a major improvement.  Stop star feature is much better than non-hybrid.

The main difference is that the forrester has a true four wheel drive system.  Toyota “AWD”typically have a separate electric motor in the rear that only turns on for extra power or traction control.

Toyota likely has better long term reliability after 100k and will hold its value a bit better after that than the Subaru.

We don’t drive that much so fuel economy and 100k mile use was less of a concern.[/quote]

Agree with all this^.

Own a Forester and Outback (both gas).  I don't know about hybrid Subarus but you can negotiate a reasonable price on gas Subarus. Toyota dealers didn't seem keen on budging or providing great finance deals currently and I understand that goes double for hybrids.  We've had a Prius which was great and Toyota is #1 undisputed in reliability. But Rav4s are like every other car on the road. The unwillingness to negotiate combined with the sheer generic-ness of them was a turn-off.

Still, hard to go wrong either way.

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