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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=FPYCparent]Lots of weird stuff showing up in the other thread.  Anyway, here's a [i]decent[/i] source of ALL D1 indoor volleyball commits.  It's not comprehensive, but it is pretty good.

2025 D1 Commits: https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/94554/2025-ncaa-d1-indoor-commits

2026 D1 Commits: https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/99241/2026-ncaa-d1-indoor-commits

2027 D1 Commits: https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/103706/2027-ncaa-d1-indoor-commits

There are other threads for D2, D3, NAIA, NJCAA, etc.  I'm not going to post links to them all.  The non-D1 threads don't appear to be as "organized," so those are a bit harder to follow.

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As of this message, here is what I see from the 2026 and 2027 threads.  Of course, these numbers will change.

2026:  Metro (13), Paramount (2 ... but not listed in the thread; my 2026 played with both at another club before all three went to Paramount ... so that's how [i]I[/i] know), VAJRS (2), VAE (1)
2027:  Metro (5), Paramount (4), VAJRS (2), VAE (0)[/quote]

Serious, non judgmental question - “all three went to Paramount” did they just move to paramount this season? So another club developed and paramount ultimately gets the credit? That could also be the same for Metro 26 - x moved to Metro one season but that club gets the credit.

I see on another twisty turny thread discussion about who develops and who gets credit. And the same thread about kids coming and going in droves at top club(s) in 17/18 year…. So, not meant as a loaded question. [/quote]
The reality is that some number of players move clubs every season, and that means sometimes a player that has committed or is on the verge of committing will move from one club to another. In CHRVA, some of the higher profile examples have been players who have maybe played 16s at one club and then switched to Metro Travel for 17s and/or 18s. A recent example is the 2025 Penn State commit who played her last 2 seasons of club for Metro, but played 15s and 16s for VAJRs and earlier years at other clubs.

But it happens with other clubs too. As you may have seen on another thread there was a mass exodus of 2025 players from Paramount ahead of the season that just ended and only 3 players who had played there at 17s were on their 18s team. That means that some of the players on Paramount 18s were already committed when they joined Paramount and others had been working through the recruiting process at their prior club.

From my perspective, it’s common and it would be a little weird for a club to not take at least some credit as the last club a player was at before they went off to college. I also think some clubs are petty about players who leave and delete commitment posts and other mentions of players. I think a better approach is to take credit for club alumni, even if they didn’t finish at a particular club. Loudoun Elite has a list posted of alumni playing in college and include what age they played at the club [url]https://www.loudounelitevb.com/collegecommitments[/url] and I think this is totally fine. It also might demonstrate to prospective families that a club does a good job at training young players who maybe move on to more competitive teams as they get older.

I think all the bitterness about players moving between clubs and who should get credit is childish. Most players play for multiple clubs over the years and get training from high school coaches, private lessons, etc that all contribute to their development. If a club wants to acknowledge their part of that player’s journey great, but it’s wrong for one club to say that a particular player’s success is solely due to something they did.

On a related topic, there is often an implication that something nefarious or inappropriate is involved when a player moves from one club another. Words like “stealing” or “poaching” players gets thrown around sometimes. I also think this is ridiculous assuming the club is operating within the rules. Players and their families have lots of reasons why they might want to switch clubs and a player’s commitment to a club is one season at a time. No club can make a player join against their will. [/quote]

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