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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In 1434, the Chinese emperor issued the Edict of Haijin, which closed off China from the rest of the world. Before that Chinese ships sailed much of the known world to advertise their cultural superiority, ssek tribute, and basically proclaim themselves the center of the world. They had taken some steps in retreat before this because of piracy, hoping that without their ships as targets, pirates would fade away. They also didn't like Japan and decided not to let Japan import Chinese products. A large number of voyages in the first part of the century, parading Chinese engineering, artistic, and scientific prowess were also considered "waste, fraud, and abuse" by some Chinese officials, so they shut down everything except for some frontier trading posts.

Which meant that 350 years later, when the British showed up, they were a weak and stagnant country.

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Whatever happened to the British empire?  Spain went bankrupt four times even with all of that loot.  You see there were these people called the Germans they were pretty much land locked, did fine without trade.

Then their were the Americans who invented the steel sided gun boat because they went to war over slavery.  A steel sided gun boat was what brought about the capture of the Summer Palace by sailing up the Yangtze.

The point is that the concept of peace and prosperity (Isolationism) is actually very powerful.  In many ways Americans ability to be self sustaining has lead us to where we are today.  When the sit hit the fan globally we were able to take massive advantage of the global failure that were WWI and WWI.  Being as how we were the only ones with functional manufacturing after the wars.  This is the position China is about to adopt.  China was a step behind, but if this happens again (ahem Ukraine, Israel, etc), it won't go so well for us.

Maybe we should fight ourselves more.[/quote]
The US only came out of the ww because of location. It's all about the location.  We were the only ones with a functioning manufacturing base because most of Europe and Asia were decimated.

Today, we live in a global world.  The US cannot go it alone.  We rely on minerals from China. Even if we were to "bring back the manufacturing", there would be nothing to manufacture without China.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1drqeev36qo

China grew in part because it used a cudgel to keep their people in line. There were no fair wages, working standards, etc.. They used slave labor. Are you saying you want us to adopt Chinese labor laws?
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