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[quote=Anonymous]I would not agree with OP's conclusion at all - although some colleges try to claim it is true, i.e, they will provide enough scholarship money to make their Princetons the same cost as UMDs. The cost/debt structure of private college and grad schools is not comparable to what most parents on this post (I am probably a little older than post parents posting here) experienced when they went through the system. I received merit scholarship for college provided by the state (no longer available), a national church scholarship (also no longer available), and student loans for the remainder. I worked every summer but did not work jobs on campus during the school year because my parents wanted me to focus exclusively on studying. I don't remember the balance of the student loans when I graduated but the payments were only $35 every month until age 37. Law school was similar. I left with an additional payment of $45.00 per month, also ending at about age 37. I believe my tuition for college in 1979 was $4500 (not including room and board); that tuition is now over $50,000 (on campus residency is required for three years so you must pay room and board); law school was @ $6500 in 1983 - that is now well over $70,000 I have heard. My total education ran about $16,000 for undergrad and $18,000 for law school for a total of $34,000, some of which was offset by merit scholarships. That same education today in the same institutions would run about $416,000. No one can justify those increases. In sharp contrast to the inexpensive cost of my loans, a relative recently graduated from a comparable college to the one I graduated from. She is more than $100K in debt to the federal government. She will not receive her diploma form the college until she has paid up what she owes the college. She has credit card debt of $20,000. She has her diploma but is 24, no job and without a W2 cannot go to a loan consolidator so will probably have to declare bankruptcy. Her college was approx. $43 a year. $43K x 4 (or 5 years in this case, as is common as you must know) is $215,000. My total for college was probably $16,000 - I don't remember what portion was covered by scholarships and what portion was loan but I carried it all myself. The monthly payments for college and for law school were incredibly reasonable. The simple fact is that colleges and universities have priced themselves out of the market for middle-class or even upper middle-class families. Scholarly studies have shown the increase is not in lockstep with inflation or any other warranted indicators. Also, colleges have not followed a basic rule of capitalism. If Harvard jacks its tuition up to $54,000, then Longfellow college jacks its tuition up to match. A Porsche does not equal a Honda, but since U.S. parents are increasingly desperate to send their kids to these overpriced colleges, Longfellow can fill its ranks and charge the same price as Harvard (some antitrust lawyer ought to look at this as a class-action). Meanwhile, colleges and universities hire more and more marketing people to try to increase their "yield" numbers for U.S. News & World Report while at the same time working over alums like me to provide scholarship monies to provide whatever financial aid they can because they know most parents/kids cannot afford these obscene fees. The system is simply broken -- eventually only the very well to-do and the very poor, the exceptional athletes, or the affirmative action candidates who are on full scholarship will be in our nation's colleges and universities - with an enormous influx of international students (you thought it was peculiar that students came from India to attend med school here in the states? Wait until you see the influx of full-paying students coming in from China) filling in the ranks of the seats that used to go to the children of the middle class and upper middle class. Read Andy Ferguson's "Crazy U". His book and website discuss the bizarre pace of increased pricing of our nation's private schools. His book also has a good chapter on filling out the FAFSA forms and the process of obtaining student loans.[/quote]
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