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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My friend who graduated from Stuy years ago commented on the large number of low income students there. School is their way out of poverty so yes they are highly focused and driven. But sometimes that pursuit is at the expense of other things in life. Their life experience and perspectives are also limited because of their family background. Of course students of the TT privates may have the same issue, but from the other extreme. [/quote]

I commute most days on the subway with lots of Stuy kids. There are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but your explanation is spot on. There are many kids who spent their whole lives studying for this one big test. They have zero social skills and have a glazed look in their eyes. For all of their great exmissions, there are lots of kids who get into Stuy and might do great but end up at CUNY, or perhaps a SUNY. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

The worst ones are the kids who have zero social skills but think they are super cool. There seem to be a lot of them. And they are insufferable.

We did not even consider Stuy for our child. Full disclosure - they scored high enough for every school but Stuy so it would not have been an option. But while those kids were being miserable studying all summer, our kid was being a normal kid, which will serve them better in life. And they are now thriving at a different HS.[/quote]

So what you are saying is your child wasn't accepted and you have no frame of reference aside from your commute[/quote]

Wow. Thanks for the snark. I was being honest. We did not put it on our list as we would not subject our child to that torture. If we had tortured our child and made them study all summer they might have gotten there, but they might not have. My child scored high enough to get in everywhere but there. We ended up choosing private over our selective offer as we wanted a smaller, more well-rounded environment. And we are truly blessed to have the resources to afford that - I know most don't have that choice. If I had to choose, I would take Bronx Science in a heartbeat over Stuy. Still a big number of academic grinds and awkward kids, but a lot more normal kids and just a more joyful environment while still having incredible resources.

[b]I see dozens of the kids several days a week. They are either a) miserable or b) really poorly adjusted socially. [/b]There are definitely plenty of exceptions to that rule. But that is the majority.

I have a HS age child so I am very aware of how normal kids behave - I'm not some 90 year old. My child is not exactly the coolest kid on earth either.[/quote]

Wow, you SEE kids on the subway and you are immediately able to tell that they are miserable or really poorly adjusted.  You are either an extremely gifted clairvoyant with a very uncommon experience (I also take the subway, and it’s rare that I see a kid and think they must be miserable) or you are TA.  My bet is on the latter.  And some sour grapes with that.[/quote]

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