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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Strawman. No one thinks affluence doesn’t affect GPA, activities, etc. [/quote] So you haven't read any of the TJ admissions threads, apparently? People there are insisting that a test like PSAT absolutely couldn't and shouldn't be used for admissions, since it's too easily gamed by wealthy parents, but they're totally fine with using GPA and essays as the entire admissions process, since they're fair. The premise of the OP is that this is backward, and that places like Stuyvesant use a sole admissions test for placement because it's the most fair way to do it for lower income, high ability kids. [/quote] I don't think that's it. I think the issue is why throw up more barriers when we have perfectly fine measures to use like those already given by the school.[/quote] Because peer reviewed research from Harvard and Brown show that tests like the PSAT are a much better measure than GPA.[/quote] DP. SOLs would work too. Link to the research about PSATs? [/quote] I don't think SOLs work as well as more transparent standardized tests because SOL prep will develop and it will only be available from local test prep organizations and those will be costly. PSAT prep is available from khan academy and has a much lower barrier to entry. Here is the research that standardized tests matter. https://opportunityinsights.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/CollegeAdmissions_Paper.pdf Here are some videos, the first one seems to be presenting the conclusions of the Harvard Brown study; the second one is older and probably a little more comprehensive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnyiRjPxU_s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_Cr1a6rj4[/quote]
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