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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thank you all so much for this information. So I probably misstated my question a little because our initial request was really for a 504 plan but what the staff proposed was collecting data to determine if an IEP or 504 plan is needed. I'm actually not sure we have a basis for an IEP.

DC had some significant struggles a few years ago that largely resolved with supports, but also led to the private evaluation. DC's Pre-K teachers from last year did not have concerns related to academics. One teacher did share some social concerns but no behavior issues at school (we have more struggles at home). DC currently receives private services to help with social skills outside of school. 
 
My (hopefully not too optimistic) guess is DC will do fine in K and then struggle increasingly as expectations increase and so we are continuing the private supports to try to give DC as much help as possible.

So we approached the school focusing on the recommended accommodations rather than IEP services because (1) private psych basically said DC should get IEP in perfect world but probably won't and (2) we consulted an advocate who basically said we don't have enough right now to justify IEP.

So I was kind of just curious what things look like from here and I really appreciate the information. I'm not sure I see the benefit of pushing for a formal IEP process as I don't think we'll get an IEP from it right now. Apologies for the somewhat misleading initial post.[/quote]

Got it - thanks for clarifying and no need to apologize! [b]So it sounds like they are on board for a 504 and want to see if he would qualify for an IEP instead?[/b] You could tell them you'd rather go with the 504 now. You could always get that set up, [b]go through the IEP testing[/b] anyway and see what happens.[/quote]

Maybe? I don't know. [b]I kind of think at the end of this they will say they can do the accommodations without a 504 [/b]but don't have a basis for that other than a friend's experience with the same school many years ago (she had a very positive experience with her child there who was in a similar boat). [b]I'd prefer a formal 504 but also don't want to cause unneeded work for them if my child is actually doing ok.[/b] DC seems happy now. Or maybe I am being overly optimistic and DC will struggle more than I expect. I don't really know how to tell these things. I appreciate the suggestion to ask to see the full teacher reports.[/quote]

No to all the bold!

No to IEP testing (more formal IEP assessment will likely be unnecessary). If OP brought comprehensive outside testing that is recent, it is unlikely that the school is going to want to do the same kind testing all over again - it's time consuming. Most likely they will "collect data" that is easy to get - samples of work, teacher reports or observations, if your child has some specific need (speech, ot or behavior) maybe some observation by speech pathologist or counselor, and any regular testing or screening or placement that all kids take (like for reading groups, etc.)

Also "no" to the idea of informal accommodations instead of a 504 - if the student qualifies, the school is obligated to offer a formal 504 plan.

And "no" to the idea of "I don't want to cause unneeded work for them".  This process (IEP or 504) is based on the individual needs of the child because it is going to make everyone's life easier when the individual needs of the child are met from the get-go.  Get that deferential "I don't want to make life harder for teachers" attitude out of here.  A 504 or IEP is a civil right and Congress passed these laws so that kids with disabilities could be as fully included in school as possible and benefit from a free and appropriate education just like non-disabled students because this is what helps create future taxpaying citizens who can live independently and make their best contribution to society.  IDEA doesn't say "give the student an IEP" if it's not too much trouble. [/quote]

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