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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is still the Pacific oscillation (ENSO).

Models are not always correct. Climate is complex.

Whatever changes there are, you would think would not happen overnight.  We have to be able to adapt to whatever happens.[/quote]

First I ever heard about this, believe it or not, was in 1980. On an ABC (pretty sure, there were only three networks we could watch on the farm) weekly news documentary (the kind of program that no longer exists).

True, not happening overnight. But do you have any sense of what even small changes can do to disrupt agricultural production and, hence, food supplies? For example, in the spring of 2022 the US winter wheat crop was down 36%, worst in 20 years. Suc events can be leveraged--good spring wheat crop, last year's or next year's crop compensates. But if we have successive impacts on crops for several years in a row, we are in trouble. A great deal of political upheaval in the past 20-30 years is directly related to conditions impacting agriculture in specific reasons (Syria had a decade or so of drought in the early 2000's, with a massive shift of the population from rural to urban areas and not enough jobs to absorb that in-migration. And it's just one example.)

What happens when year after year, home energy requirements are persistently 10% or more than established supplies? Think your heating and cooling costs won't go up and up along with the groceries? Think you can just put on a sweater or turn on the AC and NBD? [/quote]

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