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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll say it flat: M&T is Penn's way of getting students it traditionally would lose to other ivies and to Berkeley's M.E.T. Your child sounds like they have a good chance of getting into a much better program. If they can get into Harvard (Math 55 can change your life, and I've heard finance guys praise a peer who did very well in it), Stanford, Princeton, run to those schools and don't look back. It's not that Penn is a bad place or anything, but M&T is more on the finance side of things (Wharton Influence). The top students of Berkeley, Stanford, and Princeton/Harvard are much better than the top of Penn, and this is coming from a Penn grad.

By the by, URM status still matters. Just put it in a supplement or common app essay. [/quote]

This a ridciculous explanation of the program.  My kid is friends with many M&T kids and the college decision is entirely different for this group.  None indicated any intent to apply to Berkeley (two are from CA and had no interest in Berkeley).  They want the program because they want the program…who knows what school would be their top choice if the program didn’t exist.

BTW…you mentioned only two Ivy schools “that it would lose kids to” and Stanford.  All (including Penn) with sub 5% acceptance rates and the entire group in the Top 6 in the country.

OP…whatever your kid does…don’t believe nonsense posts that aren’t supported by anything.[/quote]

I agree completely that this program has zero to do with the admissions office wanting to compete with other colleges.

I went to Penn in the early 80s, soon after the program got started. It was basically a way to give engineering kids the background to start and run businesses, rather than just tinker with things.  Turns out that finance LOVES these students, so most end up there,  rather than becoming managrrs at Ford. But the whole program had nothing to do with admissions (which was not a big consideration back then as all places were easier admits,  and engineering wasn't really a sought after degree).  I should add that the few classmates i had in the program were all uber smart,  all went into finance, all got very rich,  and I'm fairly sure that all are now retired in their early 60s, with one friend having stopped working in his mid 30s.  None of that was my goal, but if money is a goal,  no surer bet than this program.[/quote]

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