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[quote=Anonymous]I can't help but notice that this thread does not consider how the woman's skills/open-mindedness play into things. A lot of highly educated UMC women are very vanilla and conservative in bed and do not give the impression that suggestions for spicing things up would be favorably received. Whenever I read this forum, I always wonder how many cases of "ED," "low drive," and "long refractory period" are actually cases of a man who's bored out of his mind. I'm not saying it's all on the woman, but you need to ask yourself whether you're putting in enough effort to make it fun. Of course you shouldn't do something that you find utterly disgusting and degrading, but you'd be surprised: a lot of men aren't into that stuff either.  This forum gets carried away sometimes with the idea that male desire is inevitably gross.

And men need to get their own act together! Getting in shape, quitting porn, and even experimenting with s*men retention (i.e. man doesn't finish every time) are all great ways to bring a "low drive" man back from the dead. The ball is in his court with those, and you have a right to expect your man to put in more effort, too.[/quote]

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