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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Also randomly telling people they were a different gender, sexuality and person. Wtf. [/b] IVF for Grace to be born in the right body? Did Shaleia really have ectopic and he just like told her it was only suspected because the embryo was too small to be detected? Jeff is such an effing tool. Shaleia being told she was not what he expected because she is fat. Just horrible, horrible people Going to jail for stalking. The poor mom trying to stay in contact with her child via text. Very, very disturbing.[/quote] Right? Although it wasn’t random but a narcissistic psychopath’s response to protecting his multi level Ponzi scheme cult by not allowing members to find flames outside the cult - as they were experiencing blow back from outsiders not buying into the perverse theology as twin flames. As they were dominated by female members he cynically took advantage of c Broader societal questioning of gender categories and fluidity by falsely claiming women who have identified as women their entire lives are actually spiritual men.[b] I was not sure whether to laugh or cry when most of them went along with it and got irreversible surgery and hormonal treatment. [/b]What kind of doctors went along with this without question? Really hope this ponzi cult gets shut down and the members get deprogrammed and supported online rebuilding their lives. [/quote] It was such an easy answer to the problem of having 95% women members, but I'm absolutely shocked that it actually worked with so many of them. Or with anyone at all, really. I watch Jeff and Shaleia on video and I have a very hard time believing that anyone would listen to them at all. When I watched The Vow, I thought "Oh, wow, that guy is weird, I hope I wouldn't fall for this nonsense" ... but I could see how people would. With Jeff and Shaleia? I don't see how anyone would listen to them at all. I guess they just managed to hook people who were desperately wanting love. Like desperate for it. [/quote] Yes vulnerable lonely people who had often just experienced painful rejection - did you notice how nice and validating they were to new comers such as Keely’s younger sister? Once they had their claws dug deep he quickly began with gaslighting and abuse. I was wondering the same thing but ended up on the side of “There but for the grace of God go I” as you never k ow how your brain would react to this kind of simplistic problem solving seduction if you were at your lowest and feeling alone. The Cult really took off during the pandemic when so many people felt isolated and depressed. I had a family and good friends to anchor me but who knows if I was at a different stage of life when all that rolled out? [/quote]
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