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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I will give an F about climate change when whichever President and the likes  of John Kerry/ any State department people/ any UN people  start flying commercial, especially economy as they are using my tax dollars.

Their motto:  do as I say, not as I do.  Eliminate the Paris agreements until they all start setting examples themselves.

We are not sheep for these climate change hypocrites. [/quote]

Eh, strange to fixate on high level politicians who have legit security reasons to travel differently from the rest of us.

The real issue is that America actually does a terrific job of taking steps to protect the earth while the vast majority of the world simply does not. We aren’t the problem, so we can’t really be the solution. Even if every American stopped traveling abroad, the environment wouldn’t really feel a positive impact. Plus, like it or not, our tourist dollars matter. Bigly. Just ask people impacted by the pandemic. [/quote]

you are seriously kidding yourself if you think America is doing a "terrific job" at protecting the earth. Do you know how much recycling actually gets recycled? How much waste we produce? How much of a single-use culture we have to many others? Now, are we doing better than some, absolutely- in limited numbers of areas- namely cities such as DC, NY, LA, SF. Go to Northern Europe- they turn composting into energy, have alternative energy sources in abundance, electric or hybrid cars everywhere, recycling (that is actually recycled) for batteries, electronics, light bulbs, etc in every grocery store, recycling pick up to include compost. That's actually doing a terrific job.[/quote]

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