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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As far as organization goes, when you go to tidy up, is there an appropriate and accessible place to put everything?

If there is, you’re already organized. You can play at the margins to make things easier (like a basket for shoes instead of cubbies) but basically, you’re there.

So at that point it’s just about setting up routines for everyone to tidy and clean.

If, when you go to tidy, you find that the spaces where things go are already full (eg you pick up the jar of cinnamon on the counter and open the spice drawer, but you can’t jam it in there) or you have a big pile of things without an appropriate home (eg you pick up a tennis racket and end up putting it on top of a pile of other stuff in the garage), then you have a clutter/organization problem.

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NP here.  The issue in our house is, if I am the only person who puts things away, and all the kids and the spouse can't be bothered, it is very hard for one person to keep up with all those messy people who don't notice, care, etc.  that things are out of place. It can be exhausting and discouraging, after years of them not putting stuff back where it so obviously belongs. [/quote]

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