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I on the Pet forum quite a lot and 99% of posters have pets and love animals.

So perhaps you read Pet forum posts from Recent Topics when they trend *because* they're controversial, like Pitt threads. In which case, yes, you'll find posters who do not understand or care for animals.

Also, among animal lovers, we can disagree on many methods of training or different lifestyles.
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I really disagree. [b]I actually avoid this forum (usually) because it's so hateful and ignorant, so much of the time. I can't even count how many threads there have been over the years that I've accidentally seen, of people fantasizing about kicking dogs, shooting dogs, bashing dogs with hammers. People have - apparently sincerely - talked about killing their family dogs because some idiotic DNA test tells them there's a little pit bull in that beautiful pup they've loved, and just post after post after post encouraging them to do it. [/b]It's horrifying, the things that are regular conversation here.

I think that the pets forum is like this because normal people who love animals have basically been driven out, by a culture of violence and idiocy. Now it's just the hateful people talking to each other all the time, because who else would want to get involved.

It's sort of like how the politics forum has gotten, too, to be honest - a few MAGA heads have so overwhelmed the conversation that they are driving out the regular people who just want to talk about stuff.

I wish it were more people like you and me - who love animals, and want to talk about the normal parts of owning and living with animals. I'd love this forum if so. [/quote]

Either you must not have a good grasp of statistics, and for you one post that mentions violence against dogs is enough to not come back for weeks, or... we're on two different DCUMs! Because 99% of the threads on here do not mention anything like the bolded. And yes, most posts in the Politics Forum are not MAGA posts. You notice them because they shock you, as they are intended to. The goal is to shut down the conversation and drive you away. Don't fall for it.

When you blow these things out of proportion, you end up with a skewed version of reality, and that's a slippery slope, my friend. [/quote]

Yes, I find it shocking - and appalling - how many anti-pet posts there are in the pets forum.  I don't know what the percentage is, but they are common enough that I don't want to participate in the forum - unless I accidentally stumble into some thread (like this one). It's common enough to notice trends, like the relentless anti-pit bull nonsense, and the people fantasizing about harming dogs, and the tedious posts complaining that dogs exist in public life. We could have a whole other conversation about the people who insist that women with pets are damaged people who are harming society, but those are generally not in this forum (I don't think).

I'm glad this isn't everyone's experience of the pets. It's present enough here for me to generally bow out of being any part of this. Truly, it hurts my heart to see so many of these ignorant, violent, hateful posts. How casually people describe hating their pets, hurting other people's pets, all of it.

And I don't fault Jeff for running his website in the way he likes, that is also profitable and manageable to him. But he allows the anti-dog stuff to grow and grow and it's pretty terrible - for me. Glad it's not that way for you. 
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