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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Freedom to have an abortion
Freedom to be LGBTQ+ without facing workplace discrimination
Freedom to speak as one likes and not be expelled from the legislature
Freedom to not be indoctrinated into Christian fundamentalist culture at school

I can keep going
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please do

elaborate on how schools, permeated with DEI initiatives, social and emotional learning, etc. teach "Christian fundamentalist culture"

also please elaborate on the Left's efforts to defend freedom of speech for regular citizens[/quote]

Texas wants prayer and the Ten Commandments in public schools.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2023/04/21/ten-commandments-and-prayer-in-public-schools-texas-senate-approves-religious-bills/

Except, some of us are Hindu, or Muslim, and that's not part of our scripture.  And, the Ten Commandments has absolutely nothing to do with federal or state law, so why is it being brought in to glare down on school children as if it's law?  What if you're Jewish and you don't accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and pray the way the school says you should?

And as for "regular citizens and free speech" versus the left...  you people on the right seem to have a funny idea about what free speech is, and how it works.

People on the left aren't forbidding you from saying anything.  But what they are doing is, if you say something that's racist, misogynist, or a lie, et cetera they will call you out for it, and if that goes viral, there's likelihood of you being embarrassed, having it catch the attention of your employer, your sponsor, your advertisers et cetera, who in turn may have the right to fire you, to pull support from you, et cetera.  You have the right to speak, but the problem you on the right seem to have trouble understanding is that free speech is not a one way street.  You have the right to say what you want, but others also have the right to speak, and to counter what you said.  THAT is how free speech works.  You HAVE free speech - nobody ever took that away from you - but need to understand that it can come with consequences.  A better solution would be to not say jackass things in the first place, if you don't want to be called out for being a jackass.  But that choice is also yours to freely make, or not.[/quote]

[b]if your paradigm for the entire right is Texas, then we should use Oregon for the left, and see where we find more nuts [/b]- or not, because that is a tiresome exercise repeated continually all over the Internet

moving on, your entire analysis of the free speech point is premised on the assumption that if someone gets mobbed, deplatformed, demoted, fired to deflect attention from their employer, etc. it must have been because they said something MORALLY AWFUL, as proven by the fact that the online public sphere, which dispenses this justice impartially, must be representative of the views of SOCIETY, and certainly not dominated by a small number of partisan lunatics (on both sides, of course) with various personality disorders, present DCUM company excluded because everyone is just on these forums to learn

maybe just reflect on those assumptions for a second

also I'm not on the right so save the "you people"[/quote]

Here is the difference: many on the left would agree with your that there are some in Oregon who are very progressive to radical. But there isn't anyone on the right saying that what is happening in different red states is unamerican where trampling of rights is concerned. Where Dem leadership calls out those in the Dem party who do stupid or illlegal things and hold them accountable, no one is doing any such thing on the right.

see the difference?[/quote]

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