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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]&quot;[b]If all other credentials are equal,[/b] Asian-Americans need to score 140 points more than whites, 270 points higher than Hispanics, and 450 points above African-Americans out of a maximum 1600 on the math and reading SAT to have the same chance of admission to a private college, according to “No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal,” a 2009 book co-written by Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade.&quot;

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe.html[/quote]

That's because they don't just go by test scores when making admissions decisions. As it should be,[/quote]

Yes, but the quoted text includes that if all other credentials are equal.  Many of the Asians denied admittance have the same amount or more athletic, club, leadership and community participation as other candidates and still are passed over for candidates of other races with lower test scores and/or grades.  There is a reason that the admission case has been appealed up to the Supreme Court level.  We'll have to see how the high court rules, but it should be interesting.

I'm on a mailing list for an Asian American PAC and this is an exerpt from a similar case to some of the included cases in the upcoming Supreme Court ruling:

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   EXCERPTS : From this father's letter to Stewart Kwoh  (Stewart's APALC supports a &quot;race-conscious&quot; policy in a pending Supreme Court case regarding college admission policy.

[b]            Martin's Experience in Applying to Colleges[/b]
&quot;Martin had a 4.35* weighted GPA, 33 ACT score, he took four subject SAT, & more than 10 AP tests during his high school years. Martin ranked 7th out of 455 high school graduates according to his junior year weighted school transcript. He was a high school varsity tennis team member for four years and captain and number one single for the last two years. He was also a city teen council member for 4 years, vice president & then the president for the last two years. The city teen council organizes teens to do various volunteer work & make our city a better place to live. Martin worked for the city Parks & Recreational Division as a volunteer tennis coach during semesters for 4 years, & he worked as a summer tennis camp counselor for pay in his Junior & Senior years.

But in the 2012 college admission season, Martin was rejected by Harvard, UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, and Duke University. On the other hand, Martin was accepted by UC Berkeley with a Regents & Chancellors Scholarship, the highest award for undergraduates with only 800 total slots (200 for freshmen) for all students at Berkeley. Martin was also accepted by UCLA, UCSD, UC Davis and UC Irvine with combined merit/need based scholarships. &quot;

[b]  What's the Difference between 
               UC System & those Private Colleges?[/b]
This father continues, &quot;What is the difference between the UC systems and selective colleges on the East Coast? Different admission policies! UC adopted a more race-neutral admission policy after Prop. 209 and Bakke v. UC Davis Supreme Court case, while highly selective colleges outside California had a more race-conscious admission policy.  Some Asian Ams (especially those officials & civic leaders who support the Dem. Party - added by S. B. Woo) thought that there might be too many Asian American students in highly selective colleges based on our population percentage in the U.S. and we should share some opportunities with other under-represented minori 5aca ties, even at a cost to our own kids. We found out on the Web site at http://www.hillel.org/index that both UPenn and Georgetown had a higher percentage of Jewish Americans than Asian Americans. The Jewish population is only about half of Asian Americans in the United States from the Census data. … &gt;&quot;

*4.0 is the highest GPA. But weighted GPA which counts hard courses more may get above 4.0.   The subtitles above were added by S. B. Woo. Otherwise, everything between quotes are from this father, unless otherwise specified.
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