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[quote=Anonymous]When people say they didn't get in anywhere, this is not what they mean.  Usually with some digging you find they got into their state school (maybe not the flagship) or some safety.

This happened to a friend's son, he had a great high school record, went to a magnet did great on standardized tests (pre-covid).  So he applied to every fancy engineering school with good need based aid.  He was differed then rejected at MIT (an athlete from his HS with lower but very good stats was accepted at MIT), waitlisted at Harvey Mudd, and flat out rejected absolutely everywhere else.  However, he did apply to his state engineering school, and went there. The next caveat is he's now completed an EE degree, perfect grades, but along the way was never selected for any internships or REUs he applied to, or even took a summer job (some were covid years).  He's now doing a gap year and applying to grad schools, he's currently working with a former professor, and has nothing else on his resume.  We'll see how grad school apps go, but even though he's clearly a smart, capable kid, I suspect he's the sort that will always be passed over.  The undergrad rejections could happen to anyone with great stats, it is a lottery and the odds are not independent, but in his case, seems it was not a fluke.[/quote]

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