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[quote=Anonymous]There are two distinct issues that I see. Do gays have the right to live together and have their rights respected by law? Should their relationship be called "marriage"? The first question is one of substance, and I think Obama has not changed on this; he is for this right. Romney is outspoken against it, despite his claim to be for gay rights. The second is ostensibly a matter of semantics, but it also involves rights that automatically are linked to marriage but are not always included in civil unions. And it involves all the religious connections of marriage, even though this is a debate specifically about civil law. And it involves the feelings of those who don't want to be treated differently. A few years ago, I think the gay community itself was split between those who wanted to fight for marriage and those who felt civil union was a more realistic goal. I think the major "evolution" that has occurred has been that the vast majority of gays now believe that settling for civil union means accepting a form of second class citizenship. I think the linkage to religion was a major factor for Obama's position until now; both his own religion and his sensitivity to the religious views of many of his constituents. But I think the gay community's position, which I spoke of in the preceding paragraph, is the view that Obama has finally come to accept.[/quote]
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